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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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really sad that our fellow sociologists don’t know what we’ve been
up to – particularly since many of us have been studying – and have
published extensively articles - re: “the new politics of community”,
re: race, class, gender, since the mid-1990s....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*<br>
"We are better than we think<br>
And not yet quite what we want to be<br>
We are alive to imagination<br>
And open to possibility<br>
We will continue<br>
To invent the future" - Nikki Giovanni, "We are Virginia Tech,"
April 17, 2007</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>"We were given everything we need to
know<br>
at birth...<br>
We just need to find the courage to grab it<br>
and rise up into this world<br>
expanded" - Carlos Andrés Gómez, "tipping point" from <em><i><font
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>Finding the Music</span></font></i></em>
(2006)</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>"True compassion is more than
throwing a coin to a beggar. It demands of<br>
our humanity that if we live in a society that produces beggars, we are<br>
morally commanded to restructure that society." - Dr. Martin Luther<br>
King, Jr.</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Emily Noelle Ignacio<br>
Associate Professor of Sociology, Interdisciplinary Arts and Sciences<br>
Box 358436, 1900 Commerce Street<br>
Tacoma, WA 98402<br>
VM: 253/ 692-4542; Fax: 253/ 692-5718</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org
[mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Jessie Daniels<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, February 03, 2009
7:36 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> citasa@list.citasa.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [CITASA] Take
two-Will the real sociology of technologies standup?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Just seconding Tracy's
comment about the 'disconnect' within sociology around studying Internet
technology, but I remain hopeful that this may change. <br>
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I was recently asked by Patricia Hill Collins, incoming ASA president, to
organize a thematic session for the 2009 meetings about race, gender and the
'new politics of community' on the Internet. I could pretty easily
think of lots of scholars doing interesting work in these areas, but in order
to be included on the panel the people needed to be current ASA members and
that requirement narrowed the pool of rather dramatically. I ended
up including 2 current ASA members, 1 person from outside the field (political
science) and 1 person from outside the U.S. (UK) - (and, offered to sponsor the
membership of the 2 non-ASA members). <br>
<br>
In part, I think this disconnect reflects the fact that the field is
international and interdisciplinary - both good things in my view.
And yet, there's still this 'lag' in terms of sociology's participation in this
area of study. As Paul DiMaggio and colleagues pointed out in their
2001 Annual Review of Sociology article, <i><span style='font-style:italic'>"sociologists
have been slow to take up the challenge of studying the Internet." </span></i>
It was true in 2001 and, from my view, it continues to be true.
Still, I remain hopeful it's changing. <br>
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~ Jessie <br>
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-- <br>
<a href="http://www.jessiedanielsphd.com">http://www.jessiedanielsphd.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.racismreview.com">http://www.racismreview.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.homelessyouthservices.org">http://www.homelessyouthservices.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, T. Kennedy <<a
href="mailto:tkennedy@netwomen.ca">tkennedy@netwomen.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What about creating a wiki for this discussion? would be interesting to<br>
create a knowledge base for all these interesting tid-bits.<br>
<br>
I find the discussion interesting, useful & timely. As a PhD candidate in<br>
Sociology, I've been wondering about my place in the discipline; I teach all<br>
of my - cyberculture, digital culture, virtual culture, gaming, info/network<br>
society etc etc - in communications, popular culture, film or media studies<br>
depts (for the last 7 years). I have yet to find a 'home' in sociology for<br>
my research or teaching interests. The courses I have taught in socio - tech<br>
& society (co-taught with Barry Wellman) and women & IT (mostly work<br>
related) and have a different slant/focus than my other courses.<br>
This is not to say that I don't use soci theories in these<br>
communications/media classes - I certainly do (and there is overlap) - so I<br>
wonder why sociology (and many depts across the US & Canada) seem so
distant<br>
to me (and certainly don't call out to me in job postings)....I've stopped<br>
going to soci conferences (except for citasa & depending on distance &<br>
funding) and have looked to other disciplines when thinking about a future<br>
tenure position.<br>
Is it just me - or do others feel this same disconnect with sociology?<br>
Tracy<br>
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Tracy L. M. Kennedy<br>
PhD Candidate<br>
Dept of Sociology<br>
University of Toronto<br>
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Course Instructor<br>
Dept of Communications, Popular Culture & Film Brock University<br>
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Research Coordinator<br>
NetLab<br>
University of Toronto<br>
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Second Life: Professor Tracy<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org">citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org">citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of Andrea Tapia<br>
Sent: February 3, 2009 8:47 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gustavo@soc.haifa.ac.il">gustavo@soc.haifa.ac.il</a>; <a
href="mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org">citasa@list.citasa.org</a><br>
Subject: [CITASA] Take two-Will the real sociology of technologies stand up?<br>
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Wow. Double wow.<br>
<br>
These questions of mine have generated a lot of discussion yesterday and<br>
today, both on and off the list.<br>
<br>
Thank you! This has spurred me on to think in new ways about what we do and<br>
find new ways to translate it to others!<br>
<br>
I think the discussions have been very interesting. So much so, that I think<br>
I'm going to anonymize and aggregate them for everyone to read. I think more<br>
than myself might benefit from the responses.<br>
<br>
One line of questions keep popping up.<br>
<br>
Why did I exclude this or that? Why did I draw artificial boundaries between<br>
sociology of technology and other things? Wouldn't if be better if
"X" were<br>
included?<br>
<br>
<br>
So, I pose a few questions back to the list...<br>
<br>
1. Is the sociology of technology an umbrella term? discipline? That
others<br>
fit inside? If so, what fits inside?<br>
<br>
2. If the sociology of technology is just sociology applied to technical<br>
things--then does the sociology of technology offer anything that overall<br>
sociology doesn't in terms of theories/methods/etc.?<br>
<br>
3. One author suggested that the sociology of technology exists only in
the<br>
overlap of other things. I think this is an intriguing idea. Do you think it<br>
hold water?<br>
<br>
4. Imagine that you found yourself on a six person team. The other
members<br>
of the team were an HCI (human-computer interaction) scholar, a scholar of<br>
communications, an STS (science and technology studies) scholar, a<br>
sociologist of science/knowledge, and a philosopher of technology. After a<br>
few beers and some good pizza they all look at you and ask you what you add<br>
to the team that they don't already have.<br>
<br>
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