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color:#1F497D'>OMG, PUBLIC APOLOGIES to Jesse Daniels!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jessie ~ I’m sorry if my blunt email sounded like it was
directed at you! It wasn’t at all – I was just upset and overwhelmed by all the
emails relaying stories of academics (including people in our own discipline) claiming
that the “good” work on internet communities have been done outside our
discipline. *<b>sigh</b>* Obviously, it’s untrue given all the great work
CITSA members (and others who may not have yet joined) are doing…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Anyway – thanks to all who have contributed and brought this to
our attention! I truly appreciate it!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Take good care,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Emily (who will be much more careful with her words next time!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org [mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Joseph Simpson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Communication and Information Technologies ASA<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CITASA] Take two-Will the real sociology of technologies
stand up?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I am new to the section in ASA and have to say this
discussion is very useful for me as a PhD candidate. I am working out of
Oklahoma State as a sociologist of technology in a department that is
predominantly focused on environmental sociology. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I agree with the previous responses that technology is a
great overlap field. I do work with virtual worlds, social movements,
community, consumption, environmental impact,
and sociological theory. And to adequately have
a discussion about these areas, technology must be considered.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Just as an example research in social movements, with issues
of framing, resource mobilization and political process must take
into account the changing nature of the discourse field,
(i.e youtube, facebook, myspace, internet news sources) changes in
resource generation (economic, social, and cultural capital
transmission through IT) , the changes in the very process of political
participation and policy formation. a great example is the 08 Obama campaign
and the new approach his administration has taken with
information dissemination.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sociology of technology in this sense should be an important
keystone for sociology as a whole. Theory generation, and methodological
insights that we develop ( and have developed) will guide others in the
discipline to incorporate IT into
their dialogue about more traditional areas.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> I feel at home as a sociologist and would like
to see the sociology of technology area grow more broadly in the
discipline. I think we have a strong contribution to offer the
entire field not just in the areas that concern us directly such as
virtual worlds, or web 2.0. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Also, it would be nice to have a job. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Joseph M. Simpson M.S.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>College of Arts & Sciences<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Sociology<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Oklahoma State University<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:josephmsimpson@hotmail.com">josephmsimpson@hotmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#00007F'> </span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span
style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#007F00'>to
conserve our natural resources, consider the environment before printing
this email.</span></b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Feb 3, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Jessie Daniels wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Just seconding Tracy's comment
about the 'disconnect' within sociology around studying Internet technology, but
I remain hopeful that this may change. <br>
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I was recently asked by Patricia Hill Collins, incoming ASA president, to
organize a thematic session for the 2009 meetings about race, gender and the
'new politics of community' on the Internet. I could pretty easily
think of lots of scholars doing interesting work in these areas, but in order
to be included on the panel the people needed to be current ASA members and
that requirement narrowed the pool of rather dramatically. I ended
up including 2 current ASA members, 1 person from outside the field (political
science) and 1 person from outside the U.S. (UK) - (and, offered to sponsor the
membership of the 2 non-ASA members). <br>
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In part, I think this disconnect reflects the fact that the field is
international and interdisciplinary - both good things in my view.
And yet, there's still this 'lag' in terms of sociology's participation in this
area of study. As Paul DiMaggio and colleagues pointed out in their
2001 Annual Review of Sociology article, <i>"sociologists have been slow
to take up the challenge of studying the Internet." </i> It was
true in 2001 and, from my view, it continues to be true. Still, I
remain hopeful it's changing. <br>
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~ Jessie <br>
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-- <br>
<a href="http://www.jessiedanielsphd.com">http://www.jessiedanielsphd.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.racismreview.com">http://www.racismreview.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.homelessyouthservices.org">http://www.homelessyouthservices.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:06 AM, T. Kennedy <<a
href="mailto:tkennedy@netwomen.ca">tkennedy@netwomen.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>What about creating a wiki for this discussion? would be
interesting to<br>
create a knowledge base for all these interesting tid-bits.<br>
<br>
I find the discussion interesting, useful & timely. As a PhD candidate in<br>
Sociology, I've been wondering about my place in the discipline; I teach all<br>
of my - cyberculture, digital culture, virtual culture, gaming, info/network<br>
society etc etc - in communications, popular culture, film or media studies<br>
depts (for the last 7 years). I have yet to find a 'home' in sociology for<br>
my research or teaching interests. The courses I have taught in socio - tech<br>
& society (co-taught with Barry Wellman) and women & IT (mostly work<br>
related) and have a different slant/focus than my other courses.<br>
This is not to say that I don't use soci theories in these<br>
communications/media classes - I certainly do (and there is overlap) - so I<br>
wonder why sociology (and many depts across the US & Canada) seem so
distant<br>
to me (and certainly don't call out to me in job postings)....I've stopped<br>
going to soci conferences (except for citasa & depending on distance &<br>
funding) and have looked to other disciplines when thinking about a future<br>
tenure position.<br>
Is it just me - or do others feel this same disconnect with sociology?<br>
Tracy<br>
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Tracy L. M. Kennedy<br>
PhD Candidate<br>
Dept of Sociology<br>
University of Toronto<br>
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Course Instructor<br>
Dept of Communications, Popular Culture & Film Brock University<br>
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Research Coordinator<br>
NetLab<br>
University of Toronto<br>
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Second Life: Professor Tracy<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org">citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org">citasa-bounces@list.citasa.org</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of Andrea Tapia<br>
Sent: February 3, 2009 8:47 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:gustavo@soc.haifa.ac.il">gustavo@soc.haifa.ac.il</a>; <a
href="mailto:citasa@list.citasa.org">citasa@list.citasa.org</a><br>
Subject: [CITASA] Take two-Will the real sociology of technologies stand up?<br>
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Wow. Double wow.<br>
<br>
These questions of mine have generated a lot of discussion yesterday and<br>
today, both on and off the list.<br>
<br>
Thank you! This has spurred me on to think in new ways about what we do and<br>
find new ways to translate it to others!<br>
<br>
I think the discussions have been very interesting. So much so, that I think<br>
I'm going to anonymize and aggregate them for everyone to read. I think more<br>
than myself might benefit from the responses.<br>
<br>
One line of questions keep popping up.<br>
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Why did I exclude this or that? Why did I draw artificial boundaries between<br>
sociology of technology and other things? Wouldn't if be better if
"X" were<br>
included?<br>
<br>
<br>
So, I pose a few questions back to the list...<br>
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1. Is the sociology of technology an umbrella term? discipline? That
others<br>
fit inside? If so, what fits inside?<br>
<br>
2. If the sociology of technology is just sociology applied to technical<br>
things--then does the sociology of technology offer anything that overall<br>
sociology doesn't in terms of theories/methods/etc.?<br>
<br>
3. One author suggested that the sociology of technology exists only in
the<br>
overlap of other things. I think this is an intriguing idea. Do you think it<br>
hold water?<br>
<br>
4. Imagine that you found yourself on a six person team. The other
members<br>
of the team were an HCI (human-computer interaction) scholar, a scholar of<br>
communications, an STS (science and technology studies) scholar, a<br>
sociologist of science/knowledge, and a philosopher of technology. After a<br>
few beers and some good pizza they all look at you and ask you what you add<br>
to the team that they don't already have.<br>
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